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Old Forge, NY Gun Show and Adirondack
October 2 and Sunday October 3, 2010
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New Eastcoast Arms Collectors Associates,
NEACA, Inc., have been organizing and
promoting Gun and Militaria Shows since
1982, their longest running being in
Saratoga Springs. Their latest endeavor
is hosting a Gun Show and Adirondack
Expo at the George T. Hiltebrant
Recreation Center on North Street in Old
Forge, New York this October 3 & 4.
They report this new event is the first
of many planned for the facility. NEACA
President David Petronis says he and
Cathy, his wife and partner, have been
working on the production of this show
for several years and finally the open
dates and great autumn time period have
culminated into this new show. If all
goes according to plan about 125 tables
will fill the facility and be covered
with exhibitor’s products from guns and
ammunition to art and Adirondack items.
“Some of the finest collectible firearms
in the Northeast will be at the show,”
says Petronis. “Plus dealers of
hunting, sporting and target guns will
be there to buy sell or trade with the
general public.” He also reports that
the largest ammo dealer in the northeast
will be displaying all types of hard to
find ammunition plus affordable hunting
ammo, other specialty ammunition dealers
will also be in attendance.
like older guns and military
collectables; old animal traps to tanned
skins and pelts; vintage Adirondack
items to classic art and sporting
antiques can also be found at this
show. Viewing will be “like a walk thru
history,” says Petronis.
Cathy Petronis says, “Old
Forge is a lovely area and it’s a
wonderful road trip getting here by
Route 28 from east or west and we’ve
tried them both. Fishing, hiking and
boating seem to be a way of life here
from spring through summer while leaf
peeking or hunting rule the autumn
period then skiers and snowmobilers ride
the trails in winter. This is the
Central Adirondack Park Region where the
mountains are home to serene woodlands
and deep blue lakes. It is a wonderful
area of our majestic north country,” she
Husband David Petronis,
notes that things to do in this area
seem endless, like simply relaxing in a
motel to riding the rails on the
Adirondack Scenic Railway from Utica
Station to Old forge or on to Otter
Lake. He noted the Enchanted Forest and
Water Safari also attract families from
mid June through Labor Day plus they
have cabins and camps for rent year
round, “which will also be of interest
to our exhibitors and their families.”
times for the show are, Saturday October
3rd from 9:00 AM to 5:00 PM
and Sunday October 4th from
9:00 AM to 3:00 PM, daily admission is
$6.00, under 14 free with an adult.
Walt Parent, owner of Walt’s Diner on
Main Street in Old Forge, will provide
food for the concession and is planning
an outdoor barbeque.
Petronis has asked local businesses to
post a flier for the show and is making
discount postcards available for their
patrons. The NEACA promoters say that
they always want to have community
involvement with their shows which is
then beneficial to all the businesses in
www.Neaca.com or call 518-664-9743 for more detailed Gun
Show information or to the Town of Web
on-line site at
www.oldforgeny.com for more
information of the area.
Another Arms Fair is planned
for the Recreation center on the first
weekend in August of 2010 and again next
Gun Shows Still Booming
By Cathy Petronis ~ September 5, 2009
self protection weapons, hunting guns
and ammunition were still strong
commodities sold during the recent
summer Arms Fair at the Saratoga Springs
City Center this past August. Gun sales
have been strong in the past ten or
twelve months as was ammunition that is
needed for their function. “There did
not seem to be any noticeable decline in
overall sales at the NEACA Arms Fair on
August 29 & 30”, reported David
Petronis, president of NEACA, Inc.,
sponsor of the show.
The New Eastcoast Arms
Collectors Associates have held gun
shows at this same venue for the past 26
years and NEACA is credited as producing
the first commercial event at the City
Center in 1984. Their first Arms Fair
was in September of that year extending
to their 76th event this past
August. Arms Fair number 77 is
scheduled for October 31st & November
1st of this year.
In the past few years,
three to four shows were produced at the
City Center with a lighter crowd and
smaller dealer base usually seen at the
summer events but this past one was sold
out of dealer space with a larger than
usual public attendance. Petronis noted
that an extraordinary amount of firearms
were brought in by the public attendees
for sale or trade with the exhibitors in
attendance. He attributed that to the
economy where extra or unwanted guns
were turned into cash or trade material
for newer or more useful firearms. He
said an older single shot firearm might
be upgraded to a multi-shot model or a
single barrel to a double or perhaps one
of lesser caliber to a newly developed
or better caliber firearm.
“The uncertainty of
keeping the same gun laws with the
change of administration, both State and
Federal, from Conservative Republican to
Liberal Democrat control, people in
general have given thought and then cash
to buying a firearm and ammunition now,
believing that future purchases may be
adversely affected by a myriad of newly
proposed laws and regulations. Looking
back at history when Democrats were in
control the folks could see that
probable detrimental changes in the
firearms laws governing ownership or
purchase could very well be enacted.
Accordingly, they are buying guns at an
unseen record rate and I see no retreat
in the foreseeable future,” Petronis
said. And the gun dealers appear to
like this trend.
“Business has been good,
actually ‘gun business’ has been good,”
he said. “Not only hunting guns or self
protection firearms have been selling
but investment firearms and vintage or
historical weapons sales have been
steady or on an increase. The stock
market hasn’t been the greatest;
recently I sold my GE stock at $42.00,
now it hovers around $13.00 a share.
But any of the fine guns I’ve purchased
over the years have seen their doubling
in price, perhaps even more. The cold
hard fact to many of us, buying fine
guns is a great and secure investment;
besides in a rough situation you can
always equalize your odds or sustain the
family with venison or duck dinner. Try
making soup with paper portfolios,”
Petronis quipped. He said, “Buying and
owning firearms is an American Heritage,
a Constitutional Right, currently a
unique American anomaly that this new
liberal administration views as a
throwback to an outdated past, one that
should be replaced with the laws of the
new World Order believing we should be
subjugated by the United Nations. Not
in my lifetime nor in those of most of
our countrymen and women who believe in
America as a free and sovereign nation.”
He said most of their
business is done thru the shows or on
their website at
www.NEACA.com where they receive an
average hit base of over 7 million a
month with 200,000 views per month. He
starts his “Dave’s World” page with
‘Stay Conservative, Buy a Gun’.
Cathy and David
Petronis began NEACA, Inc. in 1982 as a
show promotion business but prior to
that started their partnership in the
retail business in 1972. Both have
Federal and State Firearms Licenses and
now own and operate C&D Petronis, Inc.,
d/b/a Hudson River Trading Company at 38
North Main Street in Mechanicville where
they sell Investment Firearms among
other things and produce Arms Fairs in
Saratoga Springs & Utica, NY with a new
show scheduled for the Recreation Center
in Old Forge, NY on October 2, 3 & 4,
We are always happy to accept new members to the New EastCoast Arms Collectors Associates
Each member enjoys these benefits.... no waiting in line ------------------>
Attend all our shows each year with no admission fee...See the show before anyone else on Friday night...Experience previews and buffets at certain shows...Bring your spouse for only $14 more per year....Have all show information sent to you quarterly...Make contacts with people who share your interests...Save $$$$ on your tables at every show....Display only tables available to members only. Use VIP entrance, half hour before public on Sat. & Sun
And Much More!!!!
Fill out and return the application below with your payment of ONLY $50 for the first year, renewal is $45. Your spouse can also join for only $14 additional... Our group has been in existence since 1982 and we have had opportunities to join as a life member since then and again, we are offering a life membership for $375. now through December 31, 2011.
After initial membership year, your renewal will be on the first day of each quarter for the following, full 12 month period so unlike many other organizations you get one full year's membership;
Join During Yearly Renewal on
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April - May
- June ~ April 1
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Life memberships open to December 31, 2011 at $375.
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First Annual NEACA Convention and Holiday Arms Fair
December 21, 22, 23, 2007
In twenty-five years of producing gun shows my experience learned is that things they are a’ changing. Shows used to be fun and profitable, now it seems some time you can make some money or pick up an item or two but most of the fun exhibiting at a show has gone. As a promoter and producer I have always tried new things for the business, tried making shows comfortable as well as profitable and with Cathy’s help, as both wife and partner, we have succeeded at Saratoga, it’s a very nice show.
Twenty-four years ago we opened the Saratoga Springs City Center with a gala Antique Show but through time we opted to only produce our quality Arms Fairs at this fine venue in upstate New York. We now have four shows each year and this December 21, 22 & 23, 2007 we will host our Holiday Arms Fair & First Annual NEACA Convention and Christmas Party.
The Show will be at the City Center, 522 Broadway but the party, dinner and auction will be hosted next door in The Hotel at Saratoga carpeted ballroom, Saturday evening December 22nd, beginning at 6 PM. A meal will be served around 7 PM while a silent auction and bucket raffle are in progress and consisting of items donated by local businesses, NEACA Members and NEACA, Inc.
Dinner tickets are $35.00 each and have two door prize coupons attached. Following dinner, tickets also allow participation and bidding in our live auction of firearms, sporting collectables and art work. One need not be a Member of New Eastcoast Arms Collectors Associates to purchase dinner tickets but we do have a special two year Membership Promotion now being offered for only $45.00. This entitles members to free entry to all of our shows during the
year including Friday night set-up and preview buffet also early entry on Saturday and Sunday with no waiting in line. We also extend reduced table or space rental for members who exhibit at our shows and guarantee an offer of future Convention tickets, plus more.
This December's Arms Fair will be our 69th produced at the Saratoga Springs City Center which has become a premier show in the Northeast. We usually sell out of the 250 eight foot tables while only allowing sporting collectables, related Americana or antique and collectable firearms, cutlery and militaria to be exhibited. Occasional deviations apply when in good taste or add to the overall variety of the particular show.
General public is admitted from 9:00 AM to 5:00 PM on Saturday and from 9:00 AM to 3:00 PM on Sunday. The entrance fee is $8.00 with discounts for Seniors and children under 13 are admitted free with adult. The public is also encouraged to bring items to the show for possible appraisals, trades or sale to our collectors and dealers. All firearms laws and taxes still apply at the show as they do in a general sporting store. Firearms should also be in cases when being transported to the show and only opened for inspection at the admission door to check that they are unloaded. All safety practices, local, State and Federal laws are always followed at our Arms Fairs.
For a first time experience to an Arms Fair, our Saratoga shows provide a walk through history or a visit to things remembered and cherished from a younger age and for the seasoned collector a chance to view and purchase some of the finest firearms in the field. And with Christmas right around the corner one can find that special gift or that hard to locate item for the person on your list who thinks they have everything. Our fairs are entertaining, educational and hopefully provide an enjoyable visit
with friends and family who cherish our sporting heritage and Second Amendment rights. We hope to see you at the December show.
For further information contact David Petronis,
NEACA, Inc. President at 518-664-9743
or e-mail to email@example.com
or visit our web at www.NEACA.com
Annual Convention & Auction ~
have received around 25 guns so far for
our Auction beginning around 8PM on
Saturday Evening, December 22nd, in the
Hotel at Saratoga Ballroom, Saratoga
Springs, NY. This adjoins the City
Center where our Arms Fair is being
held. Plus a few Fully Framed
Prints and other items. The guns
are both handguns and long-guns, modern
and antique and are from various
members, plus a small collection of old
guns with original boxes.
Auction Items for Convention
Silent and Live Auction, December 22,
purchase Dinner Ticket to be Eligible to
Bid ... $35.00)
at Saratoga, adjoining Saratoga Springs,
City Center, NY
List (Not in Order) See
for more ...
Live Auction to save time the Minimum
Opening Bid will be no less than half
the Lower Estimated Value. This
will eliminate starting all items with
$5.00 or $10.00 bids. Example:
Minimum Estimated Value is $100. to
$200.00 ... opening bid $50.00 or pass,
as there evidently is no serious
interest in the item. Some items
benefit the Foothills Friends of the
xx ) New England
Top-break Single Barrel Shotgun, 10
gauge, 3½” chamber, 28” barrel, full
choke … as New In Box … HS1684
Serial #NE282213 … Value $200. –
xx ) Harrington &
Topper Model 48, Top-break Single
Barrel Shotgun, 16 gauge, choke
bored, 30” barrel … used, excellent
… HC2157 Serial # H 11776 … Value
$150. -- $250.
xx ) Savage –
Stevens, Model 311H,
Double Barrel, Side by Side
Shotgun, 12 gauge, 3” chamber, 28”
barrels, Modified/Full chokes, …
used, as new … HC2141 Serial
#D171337 … Value $300. - $500.
xx ) J. Stevens Arms
Falls, Mass. Top-break Single Barrel
Shotgun, 12 gauge, 28” barrel, …
used, fine condition … HC2144 Serial
#39055, … Value $100. - $200.
xx ) Westernfield, Model XNH 569E,
Slide Action Shotgun, 20 gauge, 3”
chamber, 28” barrel, Modified choke
… used, like new … No Serial #,
pre-1968 … Value $300. - $400.
xx ) Thompson Center Arms
Hawken Percussion Rifle, .54 caliber
Black Powder, set trigger, walnut
stock, USA … used, fine condition …
Antique status, Serial # K191272 …
Value $300. - $400.
xx ) American Arms
Model, Single Barrel Damascus
Shotgun, 10 gauge, Side- cocking
mechanism … used,
fine … Antique, Serial
#2432 … Value $150. - $250.
xx ) British Enfield
30” barrel, Carbine size, Military
Proofed, marked, “J. P. Field & Co.”,
percussion .69 caliber with sights,
short tang trigger guard, barrel &
stock marked “11”, under stock
“GA” … possible Confederate use in
Civil War, used, Antique condition …
No serial # … Value $600. - $800.
xx ) Springfield Artillery size
Rifle, 1864 Lock, .50 caliber Allin
conversion in 1866 to breech block
action, 30” barrel … Antique,
excellent condition, no serial # …
Value $1000. - $1500.
xx ) Maas French Military
Model 1936, Viet Nam vet bring-back
said used by Viet Cong, appears to
be chromed French parade rifle with
original sling … used, fine
condition … HC5000 Serial #85892 …
Value $150. - $250.
xx ) Quality Firearms
QFI RP, Revolver, 2” barrel, .22
Magnum … as New In Box … HS1914
Serial #SZ02708 … Value $120. -
xx ) New England
NEF 9-R92, Revolver with 9 round,
swing-out cylinder, .22 caliber, 4”
barrel … as New In Box … HS1667
Serial #NB015133 … Value $200. -
xx ) Harrington &
622, 6 round Revolver with 2 ½”
barrel, Blue, .22LR caliber … as
In Box … HS1684 Serial #AP138789 …
Value $150. – 250.
xx ) Harrington &
649, 6 round Double Action Revolver,
.22LR caliber 5 ½” barrel, Blue,
Walnut Grips … Used, as New … HS1873
Serial #AT055338 … Value $200. -
Arms, Rough Rider,
Single Action Revolver, .22LR
caliber with .22 magnum cylinder, 4
¾” barrel, nickel finish … as
Box … HS1958 Serial #HR57718 … Value
$200. - $300.
) American Arms
Company, New York,
Double Barrel Shotgun, Mule Ear
outside Hammers, side locks, 12
28” barrels, walnut checkered stocks
… Antique, fine condition … Serial #
381310 … Value $300. - $400.
) Harrington &
348, Bolt Action Shotgun, 12 gauge,
20” Barrel, Walnut Stock, … Used,
excellent condition … HC6001, No
Serial # (Pre- 1968) … Value
$150. - $250.
xx ) Springfield Arms
Mass., Model 53A .22 Cal. s/l/lr
Single Shot, Bolt-Action Boys Rifle,
Walnut Stock, 24” Barrel … Used,
Excellent Condition – HS1642, No
Serial #, (Pre-1968) … Value, $150 -
xx ) Westernfield (Montgomery
Wards), Model 550A (Mossberg) Slide
Action Shotgun, 12 ga., 26” Barrel
with Accu-choke, Walnut Stocks,
jeweled bolt … as new, in box
papers … HC6010, No Serial #
(Pre-1968) … Value $$300. _ $400.
xx ) Ithaca, Model 49 Saddle Gun,
.22 cal. Single Shot Rifle, 18”
Barrel, Boys Rifle size, … Used,
Unfired, New In
Box, w/hangtag (some
light pitting on barrel from storage
… HS2264, Serial #266398 … Value
$300 - $350.
xx ) Winchester Model 12, 20
Slide Action Shotgun, 28” Barrel
with Polychoke, ribbed fore-end,
walnut stocks … Excellent Condition
to re-blue … HC6102, Serial #1100454
… Value $400 to $500.
xx ) Westernfield, Model SB836
Deluxe (Savage/Springfield Model
187) .22lr/.22HS shorts caliber,
Semi-auto rifle, 20” Barrel,
Checkered Stock … Like New
Condition, several stock mars,
w/original box from Montgomery Wards
… HC6020, No Serial #, Pre-1968 …
Value $150 - $200.
Auction ... Silma, Over/ Under
Shotgun, 12 Gauge, New in Box ...
Minimum Bid $800.
Auction ... Bust of George
Washington, Friends of NRA Sponsor
Gift ... Minimum Bid $60.
Auction ... Embroider Jacket with
Deer for Friends of NRA ...
Minimum Bid $35.
Auction ... Hand Carved Wooden
Frame with Deer Print ... Minimum
Auction ... Sage Deer Signed and
Framed Print ... Minimum Bid $40.
Auction ... Burnton Rifle Scope,
3X - 5X Variable ... Minimum Bid
Auction ... Burnton Rifle Scope,
3X - 9X Variable ... Minimum Bid
Auction ... Unwanted Visitors,
Song Bird Signed & Framed
Print ... Minimum Bid $80.
Auction ... Pachislo Gaming
Machine, Vegas Style Game of Skill
... Minimum Bid $125.
Auction ... Limited Edition
Victorian Porcelain Doll
"Gillian", 32" ...
Minimum Bid $75.
Auction ... Limited Edition
Country Porcelain Doll , 24"
... Minimum Bid $45.
... About 15 to 20 items in our Bucket
Raffle, tickets available at the Dinner.
Dear Members & Exhibitors,
Re: MEMBERSHIPS ~ SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY SHOW
It is becoming increasingly difficult and costly to manage memberships on a monthly renewal basis - we are the only group I know of that gives a complete twelve month membership when you join - usually you join during the year at full price and renew on January 1 the next year - real simple. We have allowed renewal in the same month of the next year, thus twelve full months.
Our change, to make things easier for us and still give as much as possible is this: Renewals will be on the first month of each quarter you join; i.e.: January 1 / April 1 / July 1 / October 1, and because of rising costs and for the complete show schedule that we offer, we are raising memberships per year to $30 initially and $25 per year renewal. A month before each quarter, we will send out renewal notices and, if renewed within 30 days of the quarter, the amount will be $25 - if after the 30 days, $30 will be due to sustain membership. Instead of 12 mailings and accountings, this will cut our work down to four and be easier to manage while
continuing most of the full 12 months membership.
Life memberships will be open for the remaining part of the year 2003 for a fee of $250. We've been in the show business since 1982 with our NEACA group and many of you have been members since then or portions of that period. We have proven we will be around for the long haul and have many life members now.
Let me tell you about the benefit of being an NEACA member and I'll pose one of our shows at Saratoga in March as an example. If you were a member and wanted a table, you got to set-up from 3PM on Friday to 9PM in the evening - easy loading with our carts or you could tip the boys we hired to help you. You could set-up a display only table for a large reduction in cost or could save $10 each on sale tables from the non-member rate. About 5PM we had free drink and light hors d'oeuvres. About 6PM we gave all the exhibitors a free buffet of food so you didn't have to go out and find something to eat. Then at
6:30PM we allowed non-table holding members to come in to view the show and buy, sell or trade till closing at 9PM. Saratoga is one of the only shows that still, actually has a Friday evening sales time. The reason? We have dealers who stay because of the food and drink and because buyers, our members, come in from 6:30 to 9PM. So, if you have a table, you can set-up from 3PM to 9PM. If you are a member and not listed as a table holder, you get in from 6:30 to 9PM
Incidentally - there were way too many people at the last Saratoga show during set-up who were not table holders and again, we had to give out some badges that were forgotten or for "Joe who was going to help me set-up." You know - as dealers - you are supposed to be the ones, and the only ones, who get in early and perhaps get a good buy from the next dealer before the show begins, and at your leisure! If you allow other people to take advantage of you and buy out from under you or the dealer next to you, it's foolish. A big part of this buying and selling game is the buying! My job is trying to keep things as
fair as possible for everyone while keeping control of the show. You can help by not allowing badges to be out unnecessarily.
Speaking of badges, we're going to limit them to two badges per exhibitor. If you need an extra person to help on Friday after 6:30PM or Saturday or Sunday, get them to become a member and they get in a half hour early before the public. If you and your friends have three or 4 tables with four or 5 badges, get tables in separate names.
As a non-table holding member, and non dealer, remember you are welcome to a table for casual sales once or twice a year, as long as the law permits, or to a display only table to see if you can buy something or possibly show off your collection. Or just come into the show free, and early, on Friday evening after 6:30PM and enjoy any buffet or drinks, etc, that may be still available. Many shows sell fictitious tables at $30 to $50 just for a badge to come in on Friday so you can buy - we don't do that. You must be a member (but you can join on Friday evening at the door for $30.00). Then you can still get in a half hour
early on Saturday and Sunday before the public - for free at any of our shows - and not wait in line, and at Saratoga in March we had two solid lines until 12:00 on Saturday and even one for quite some time on Sunday.
To become a member, fill out the enclosed form and send it in to get your member card before our next show. For $30 initially (a $25 annual membership renewal) you get to go to the Saratoga Show three times a year on Saturday and Sunday - times $6 each day, that's $18 - plus come in on Friday evening for early viewing, food and drink - as a VIP -- because we want you there to buy, sell or trade with the exhibitors at leisure - a very important person indeed - again FREE and if you want a table just once a year - you save $10 - you've already saved the membership cost and you still have all our other shows to get into for FREE for the
year. Plus we always have other special member things going on, a mailing of our shows is just one.
As a gun collector or military collector or knives, or just for the camaraderie with people who have the same interests - you should join us today. Our Saratoga Arms Fair comes up three times a year, March, August and November. You will want to be a member 90 days before then if you want tables at the discounted rate. Our member letter and current flyers go to all our prior exhibitors and members first - then a general dealer and collector mailing. Join today, you'll be happy you did.
David Petronis, Pres.