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Pictured is Doug Foglio of Maine with his
excellent Savage display at Saratoga Springs, NY Show.
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......CURRENT NEWS FLASH:
Read our past March Saratoga Springs, NY Gun Show Report
May 8, 2008
Dear Members and Exhibitors,
Energy and food prices are high, housing
starts and interest rates are low, gold
is high and consumer confidence is low,
the stock market still hovers at a high
of 13,000 but the choice of who we are
left to vote for in November simply
sucks.
To hell in a hand basket or is
opportunity knocking at the door, how
does the pendulum swing?
Or when someone innocently asks,
“How you doin?” the response today takes
a little thought.
I personally think we’re doing ok.
Not great but not suicidal.
Each of us has their own
circumstance which usually governs what
life’s little hiccups bring forth.
If you were in debt, lost your
job and faced foreclosure you have a
good case of “things can’t get much
worse”, response.
If you are the one getting a good
deal off this guys’ trauma you probably
answer, “Pretty good. How about you?”
Right back to an individual
circumstance.
We’re doing fine and I think our
high end collector business will do fine
also.
I hope you are too.
Record auction prices are being made on
antiques and high quality collectibles;
there is no shortage of money out there.
We are seeing record attendance
at gun shows and antique shows.
People are still buying and they
are still traveling.
With all the doom and gloom I see
every day on TV I don’t see it deeply
affecting the affluent or the upper
middle class.
Being frugal in times of
uncertainty is prudent but I don’t see
panic in most life styles.
Tightening of a few purse strings
and making smarter purchases, maybe.
But
I’ve needed to shed a few pounds anyway.
I see opportunity knocking so
fill my glass to optimistic.
And I am working to stretch that
attitude to securing better deals on our
show advertising, keeping rental prices
down and getting best rates for
traveling.
Gas prices I can’t do a thing
about but I hear driving slower, turning
the engine off instead of idling,
checking oil and tire pressures, can at
least save on consumption.
So, on to our shows.
We still have some tables at
Little Falls, Sunday, June 1st.
Cathy and I are staying there
Saturday evening at the Best Western.
Good restaurants in the area
including the hotel, call 315-823-4954
for a $65.00 rate if you want to stay
there and send in your application we
already sent you if you want a couple of
tables.
First show there in ten or more
years.
Saratoga in August is still the place to be. A
near record crowd came in March and we
are sending another ten thousand post
cards out for August 1, 2, 3 and our
hunting season show of September 20, 21,
22.
Check our enclosed August flyer
for future show dates.
I can’t do much on room rates but
we do have an extensive hotel/motel list
we can send you or download the info
from the web at NEACA.com on our Gun
Show Page.
Lots of tables already sold but I
am still lacking some deposits for our
front section and some wall spots so if
you want them send money with a request.
Again we will host a Saratoga
Convention, Dinner and Auction during
our January 2, 3 & 4, 2009 Arms Fair.
Those of you at our last
Christmas Show and Dinner know how well
it all went but told me it could be even
better after the holidays, so here it
is.
The hotel was bought by the
Hilton chain and is now the Saratoga
Hilton.
We’ve held the ticket price to
$35.00 even though our cost went up ten
percent.
The rooms are $75.00 on Friday,
Saturday and Sunday if you are coming to
our dinner, secret code sent with
confirmation and they are limited so we
need a deposit of $10.00 per Dinner
ticket.
Our auction went well and I know
we will double the attendees for the
next convention so if you want to put an
item on our Silent Auction table with a
minimum or in the Live Auction with a
starting price, the commission will be
$10.00 or 10%.
You must arrange that at least a
month ahead.
I plan on this convention
becoming a big event and will work
towards that goal, don’t miss out, make
my life easier, sign up early and help
me sell tickets.
Our Saratoga Arms Fairs will
always be the place to be if you tell
your friends about the crowds, the
facility and what wonderful people we
have coming to the
City
Center.
Our Halloween weekend in Saratoga will be an
Antique and Collectible show and the
flyer is enclosed.
We also have mini flyers in pad
form that we already started spreading
out.
If any of you want some, or some
of our Post Cards for the next Arms
Fairs, call or Email us.
Twenty five years ago we opened
the new City Center with a gala Antique Show in August
followed by the first Gun Show in
September.
I’m happy to be back promoting
this type of event.
I know a lot of you will also be
able to set up a booth with Antiques and
Collectibles, including our vintage
outdoor and sporting items.
No modern firearms unless deemed
investment grade or highly collectible
and also be part of an overall vintage
sporting booth.
See our flyer for further details
and call me for spot location.
I still am hearing nothing but good
things about our Utica Arms Fair with
anticipation for our next one on August
22, 23 & 24.
At this point I have our 200
table floor plan but with capacity to
about 325 with moving both sides of the
seating areas back into the walls.
Most folks who were there at the
last show already deposited for August.
Last chance to save your same
tables is with this mailing; send in now
with one table deposit.
By the beginning of June I will
no longer honor same location.
I am also working on filling the
upper level perimeter with outdoor
sports dealers and vendors.
The show is billed as an Arms
Fair and Outdoor Sporting Expo and by
next April 3, 4 & 5 we should have fifty
or so filled booths.
I am working with several folks
to make that happen.
Again we have secured a great rate for
this August Show at the Utica Hotel,
just $110, up somewhat from April but
the summer is very busy in the area, in
fact both the Radisson and Utica Hotel
are full except for our Arms Fair block
of reserved rooms.
Don’t wait to secure yours, call
1-877-906-1912 and ask for the Utica
Arms Fair rate.
I was working on a huge event in the
Plattsburgh
area for this summer or fall but time
has run out for this.
We are dating it for 2009, also
have a few other locations we are
negotiating with and other irons in the
fire.
Sending in your membership
renewals for July and becoming a NEACA
new member will keep our efforts and
your mailings on track.
Speak of our shows to your
friends, we always need new exhibitors
for freshness at our venues and please
post our flyers in a prominent location
and at your clubs.
Our mini flyer and post cards are
also available.
Keep the faith and have a
wonderful summer.
Sincerely, Dave Petronis
March 26, 2008
Dear Members and Exhibitors,
We’ve put our 70th
Saratoga Springs Arms Fair to bed and
when the dust settled I could have slept
for three days. It was a very active
show and although I made it a point to
try and see the entire show, it was just
impossible. But for this letter I wanted
to give Dave a break and send you all my
perspective of the show promotion
business.
Just to give you a glimpse
of the background of a March Saratoga
Arms Fair, this is what goes on leading
up to it. This particular show a lot of
things, including confirmations, were
put off until the last minute. We could
see from our end the strain the economy
was putting on people just because a lot
of applications and payments didn’t come
in until the last minute. We understood
what was happening but it didn’t make my
job easier.
As most of you know, I
have an income tax business. Because of
some things that Congress finalized late
on Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) I
couldn’t file some returns until the
second week in February, which pushed
some of my income tax business later
that would normally have been finished
in January.
I pride myself on doing a good job for
my tax clients while at the same time,
taking care of show business and
advertising to make sure we give you
dealers the great show you all deserve.
There are weekly newspapers and dailies
plus websites that I list the shows on
and press releases that go out to loads
of papers, radio and TV stations. There
are radio scripts to check and update
then an overall check of what
advertising media is working and what is
not. The end of January we also began
our mailing of thousands of post cards.
Over the years we have built up a data
base of over 23,000 people. A certain
percentage comes back, some with
corrections and some beyond the
forwarding date. All this must be kept
up to date and I’m the one who does
that. I also take care of member
renewals and cards and you all know I’m
not infallible with that chore.
Then comes the week of
the show and it’s shopping for the menu
for whatever we decide to make for the
Friday evening preview and finally
cooking it. Denise usually helps with a
lot of these things but she had the flu
so it was impossible this time. Some of
you would probably be surprised at what
a great cook Dave is. He did help with
the goulash this time as he did with
hours of carving turkeys last fall.
Except for the first two
days of that week, my income tax
business is put on hold and everything
is “Show Business” from the cooking, to
packing and set up: then let the show
begin. You all know that experience and
what I do there. And now the Saratoga
Show is history and things have settled
a bit but there’s always the next show.
Which brings us to our
first show in almost 20 years at the
Utica Memorial Auditorium on April 4, 5
& 6. It’s coming right along but we can
always use more dealers for this large
facility. The caterers for the AUD are
the same ones who run the restaurant at
the Syracuse Fair Grounds Verizon
Center. In other words we’ll have
choices of what to eat for lunch. The
staff at the auditorium is very
enthusiastic about the Arms Fair and we
are getting calls from all around that
area from dealers, clubs and John Q.
Public. John Pitarresi, the outdoor
writer for the Observer Dispatch, which
is Utica’s main newspaper, has been
mentioning the show in his column since
January. You’ll find a flier enclosed
and I hope you will join us there. Most
of the dealers are staying at the lovely
Hotel Utica, a Clarion hotel. The
lobby makes you just want to sit there
and meet people. There’s a nice lounge
and a four star restaurant and a hot
breakfast is included with the room and
served in the lobby in the morning.
There may be a few rooms left. You can
check at 1-877-906-1912.
We are starting the month
of June off with a one day show at the
Best Western in Little Falls where we
will have about 35 tables and you will
find a flier enclosed for that. Again
this is a very receptive facility with a
lounge and restaurant. There are lots
of quaint shops in Little Falls also.
Fliers for our August 1, 2 & 3 Saratoga
Springs Show are also enclosed and for
those who want their usual tables please
send a one table deposit.
Our 2008 confirmed
schedule will find us back in Utica
August 22, 23 & 24, then Saratoga,
September 19, 20 & 21, our original
Saratoga Gun Show weekend until the
early 90’s and then rounding out the
year with an Antique and Collector Show
on October 31st, November 1 &
2 at the Saratoga City Center. Any
dealers who have antique firearms and
sporting collectibles, don’t rule this
show out. We used to produce this type
of show at the City Center and did a
great business ourselves with that type
of merchandise. Fliers for the latter
shows will go out in a later mailing.
I want to thank all you
dealers who made our March Saratoga
Springs Show so great. I couldn’t begin
to tell you all the compliments we
received on the show. The crowd was
huge but not record. If I keep my
sanity through tax season, you’ll hear
from me again late April or early May.
I told the “boss” I need a vacation
after April 15th.
Sincerely,
Cathy Petronis
PS: Cathy did such a great job on this
letter I may actually retire and enjoy
my first SS check this April … Dave.
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January
18, 2008
Dear Members and Exhibitors
… and Prior or Potential Members
Cathy and I wish you all a great New
Year in 2008.
For
us, any look upward from under a snake
belly will be an improvement over 2007.
All we have to contend with now
is high gas prices, high fuel oil
prices, the thought of Clinton or Osama
Obama as President and a gallon of milk
costing $4.09.
I wonder if Adams and Jefferson
bitched about the cost of bread and milk
two hundred years ago, probably did!
Regardless, our new motto is “Be
great in ’08.”
In a consensus and
from the exhibitors as a whole,
the request was made that in my next
letter I pass on these words, “Thank all
of you who did not set up at our
Christmas Show in Saratoga, we had a
great show.
Glad you weren’t there!”
Not my words mind you but from
the class of Christmas Past.
The party was great and the
auction dealt out some fine bargains.
The rest of you
won’t get a chance to rethink your
blunder
and come to our
2008 Christmas Show and 2nd
Annual Convention Dinner and Auction
because it is going to be held on
January 2, 3 & 4, 2009.
We’ll have Christmas in January
honoring my Lithuanian Heritage because
I couldn’t book the same weekend in
December at the City Center.
Plan for it now, same theme as
this past show – tickets will still be
$35.00, try saving up five dollars a
month for two in January, 2009 for those
who thought it a bit excessive.
Or you can start sending in a
couple dollars extra with a table all
year long and we’ll keep track of your
balance.
For our Saratoga
City Center schedule,
see our current flier for March – it has
new dates, throw away the prior one.
We
still have August 1, 2 & 3
and those who go to the “flea market”
don’t endear themselves to us.
Let them change their date!
But we have a new date which replaces
the October date.
We
have to
move to September 19, 20 & 21,
right after the Syracuse Show.
There were too many conflicts and
shows moving to our new November 1 & 2
dates.
Actually, we started Saratoga on
that September date over 25 years ago
and added our March show always on the
third weekend.
So we are back to where we were
but also have August during the peak of
racing season and now a
Winter
Convention on January 2, 3 & 4.
I think it is a very good
schedule.
Members join NEACA
and come into our shows Friday evening
expecting to see the dealers open for
business.
We’ve heard many complaints that
exhibitors are closed before our Members
come in.
If you can’t be open till 9pm
at least
stay until 8pm. Saratoga
is about the last show with a viable
Friday selling time.
Instead of losing
our Halloween Weekend entirely
at Saratoga we are holding that October
31, Nov 1 & 2, 2008 for another type of
show – leaning to an
Antiques &
Collectables Show like
we’ve done in the past with about 110
booths. If you are one or know an
Antiques Dealer make note of the date.
Details
will follow.
Our Holiday Inn
Turf, Lake George
show is this February 10th,
on Sunday as usual.
We’ll be staying over Saturday
evening to set it up.
Flyer enclosed but our fun little
Show is nearly already sold out.
After nearly twenty years we are back in
Utica.
The
auditorium has just issued us a contract
for April
4, 5 & 6 for about a 325 table show
on the renovated and expanded main
floor.
We also have room for about 35
booths (8’ X 10’ wide) around the upper
level for Outdoor Sporting Activity
dealers like ATV’s, motorcycles, small
boats, guides, etc. and will call the
show the NEACA Arms Fair & Sporting
Exposition.
Another date of August 22, 23 & 24
is also scheduled, just after the
Clayton, NY Show.
Send in your table deposits today
– those who are not members now but want
to get a deal here it is.
Send full balances for your
tables plus $30.00 for a new membership
and we’ll give you the member rate for
tables, if I get them with a postmark in
January, or see us at the NYS Arms Show
in Albany.
Lot’s of excitement about this
revived show, already have about 100
tables deposited so don’t wait.
Lots of motels near by, make your
reservations early.
We are
99%
committed to reviving another show
where we used to get a lot of tourists
and Canadian traffic years ago.
With the dropping of our dollar
against the Canadian dollar, almost par
now, these people can again afford to
visit and shop in the USA – especially
in Plattsburgh and in particular at the
beach near the Crete Civic Center.
We are organizing an Arms Fair
and Militaria Exposition at the Crete
Center and hopefully a Military Vehicle
Show on the grounds as well.
Vacation time of July 11, 12 &
13, 2008.
The beach will be open and lots
of motels and restaurants near by. Other
new shows in the works. More details to
follow.
If you haven’t
renewed your membership by now
you’ll probably owe us $30.00 if you
were up on January 1st.
Get it in by the 31st
and pay only $25.00.
New members are welcome at our
regular rate of $30.00.
Go to our New Eastcoast Arms
Collectors Associates web page at
www.NEACA.com
and download an application.
We have expanded our shows, our
influence and have added our Convention
– you should be a NEACA Member and a
part of our always innovative and
exciting collecting fraternity. Happy
hunting!
Sincerely, Cathy & Dave Petronis
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November 5, 2007 ~ Prior Letter
In twenty-five years of producing gun shows my experience learned is that things they are a’ changing. Shows used to be fun and profitable, now it seems some time you can make some money or
pick up an item or two but most of the fun has gone. Laws have changed to make gun dealing more time consuming and candidly, even harder to do business or enhance
one’s collection – or even to get rid of it. I have always tried new things for the business, tried making shows comfortable as well as profitable and with Cathy’s help have succeeded at Saratoga, it’s a very nice show.
But even nice shows can finish last if any of those newly proposed gun ban laws are put in place. It seems that every month brings forth some proposal to ban guns, ammo or even shows. Syracuse and Albany could be gone with a writ of the Governor’s pen. State
property is not the proper place for guns, you realize. Our show in Saratoga is stable but with a play on words even the horse stables could empty out if our Governor and Legislature don’t correct those pending problems soon. Over one thousand horse breeders have left the state this year alone. Saratoga without horses is like, well – Saratoga without gun shows. No one knows what the future brings.
To make our terrible hobby and pernicious business dealings palatable to the masses of liberalism within our state, we now call our gun shows, Arms Fairs, sounds so much more pleasing. After twenty-four years in Saratoga, we now want to make our Arms Fair into a Convention of Arms
Collectors. Conventions have power when they come to a city – gun shows breed scorn. That’s just the way life in today’s world is, boys and girls, you and I must adjust or go and sleep with the dinosaurs. Here is what I want you to do for me and for our hobby and business in peril.
Enclosed you will find our NEACA Member Application; we need to create more numbers and all of you recipients of this letter are the keys to success. Most of you are already members, if you need to renew, please do so. Give the application to a
friend and sign him or her up. It’s a good deal; our standard annual fee is a paltry $25.00. Coming to four shows in Saratoga alone is now $32.00 for one day each. With membership you can come both days, each show, for FREE. Plus, come Friday evening during setup and get free food and drink, four different times and come in early Saturday and Sunday with no waiting in line. If that isn’t enough you get in free to all our other shows. And for this member promotion, we’re going to waive the $5.00 initial process fee if you sign up now before our next show on December 22 & 23. Need more incentive, first time ever, save another $5.00 and sign up for two years for $45.00 – no process fee. Does your wife wait in the car while you check out the show because she won’t pay $8.00 admission? For $8.00 more per year, you
can add a spouse to your membership. You can’t beat our deal with a stick! Send it in today so we can show the cities we go into our strength in numbers. Prior members, we want you back! For some reason you stopped paying your dues, we need you to start again, same deal. Renewing members, same deal! Do it today.
We have just scheduled two new shows in the rehabilitated area of Utica, N.Y. at the Utica Memorial Auditorium. Our last show there was nearly 18 years ago, none since. Great gun and hunting country and we can fit about 300 eight-foot tables. Fliers will be in our next mailing but mark these two dates on your calendar, April 4, 5, 6 and August 22, 23, 24, 2008. There is easy level loading, good lighting, plenty of free public parking and we’ll have reasonable table rent. I am excited to be back, we always had some fine shows there. One interesting but sad note, our last show there we had eighty gun dealers; all but about ten are gone. See
how these shows have changed. Exhibiting then and still with us are the Hartman brothers, Gary Schultheis, John Shattuck, Tony Fidd, John Gunderson, Joe Marino, Roland Fraser, Everett Lester and Cathy and I. All were members; most still do our shows but about 70 do shows in Heaven or not at all.
Enough calamity, we also hope to see those same old timers at our rejuvenated Utica shows. But we also need the old, the new and the returning members and exhibitors to sign up for our new Arms Fair on December 21, 22, 23 – next month at Saratoga. We had a December show seven years ago and it went very well. This new one will become a tradition because we are also hosting our First Annual Arms Convention & Christmas Party, next door to the City Center in The Hotel at Saratoga, in their carpeted Ballroom, Saturday December 22.
We reduced our table prices for this show by $5.00 each and obtained a great rate at this premium hotel, for $69.00 a night. Members and exhibitors must mention the NEACA Christmas Party or Arms Fair to register. The rate is good for Friday, Saturday or Sunday evenings or any combination.
Call 518-584-4000 for reservations immediately, rate will be honored through Thanksgiving weekend. Don’t wait, rate is regularly upwards of $125.00.
The reason you need to stay at this hotel for this time period is so you can also enjoy our Convention Dinner, Party & Auction on Saturday night and we will be using hotel rooms. It is so cheap you can’t afford not to stay, we’ll have a breakfast buffet laid out on Sunday morning. Sorry,
it won’t be free this year but who knows what the future will bring.
As for our Convention, we have just received our printed tickets for the evening festivities. Drinks will be available at 6:00 PM in the reception area as well as registration and Auction viewing. Large round tables will seat 8 so we have plenty of elbowroom, you may plan accordingly for space.
Dinner will be served consisting of a specialized chicken dish with trimmings. Event tickets are $35.00 each and include a special drawing portion and also a door prize portion, deposit those in the appropriate area. Call us for tickets, membership is not required but a head count is needed several days prior to the show, 518-664-9743 or 518-664-7610, leave a message if no one is available. We will accept all credit cards for membership, tickets or table rent by phone as is usual, again, prior to the show.
We’ll have at least a 20-item bucket drawing, tickets available at the dinner. Also 20 items for a silent auction to be bid on by posting name and bid to a sheet, also a regular auction of around 50 guns or collectibles after dinner. We will also have a few raffles benefiting the Friends of NRA.
I haven’t decided on a speaker or MC yet, if at all, or haven’t firmed up a visit from Santa but we’ll see. In any event we will have fun. You may also bring children if so desired and I will follow up on a special dish for age 10 or under, call me if you need to. Also looking into a baby sitter for a group of children in our hospitality room at the Hotel. Santa will come right after dinner, if you wish to arrange for special gifts, call us. If
you want to put an item in the auction or silent auction table you may do so for a $10.00 fee, call me before hand. Gun transfers have to go through a dealer and I will also do them for buyers or sellers in need for $10.00.
I know this show is very close to Christmas, next year it will be a bit better and we will work toward a week earlier. But this date was the only one we could get, the Hotel is giving us a super deal on rooms and best they could on the meal. It is certainly not the best date but it is our only chance to try something new and get established as a Convention. At these facilities, including the City Center, Conventions have preference over Trade Shows, which means our show dates can be bumped by a Convention date. I am trying to put us on a par with the rest of the world. To do this we really, really need your help. You need to think hard on why you can’t possibly take tables on this show date. Why you can’t
save money on becoming a member and why you couldn’t possibly have an enjoyable time on Saturday evening, December 22nd and help our Gun Collecting Cause at the same time. Gun control should be the ability to hit your target.
This letter is long but we have a lot happening now and in the future, all can only come to fruition with your help. Arms Fairs or Gun Shows, as they are now, could become an endangered activity. I hope new ideas will save them.
Sincerely, Dave Petronis, Pres., NEACA, Inc
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Prior Letter ~ September 13, 2007
Dear Members and Exhibitors,
I usually like to start our letters with a bit of wit or wisdom. For this one I want to tell all you fellows not to chase Wood Nymphs in the Adirondacks. I found that they turn out to be a sucking succubus that grabs and flails you upon the rock and hurls one against the trees. I am now dictating this to Cathy while in the prone position; legs up nursing the wounds received trying to capture what I thought was a nymph appearing to me in vision on our land in
the Adirondacks. Again I warn you guys, stay home and be kind to your woman. It turns out my nymph was a dead tree I grabbed during a slide on a rock on my mountainside near Stony Creek. With leg twisted I now have a black and blue ankle with torn ligaments. Never a dull moment.
Down to business. We just finished our little show in Amsterdam, NY at Pasqualli’s Restaurant and Conference Center and luckily there weren’t too many people who showed up to bother me while nursing my wounds. I did manage to buy and sell a few things and my other dealer friends also made a few dollars, even though it was the hottest day in September that we’ve seen in a long time. Then naturally it rained on Sunday when we started packing up.
I expect that the cloud above me will follow us to Syracuse this weekend. In actuality, this new little show has potential and they are going to expand the facility and when they do, we will be back with another one. By the way, the restaurant was excellent and if you’re going by the America’s Best Value Inn on Market Street, stop in, say hello to Pat and have a good meal.
One reminder that I should pass on is this. While talking with the NYS COBIS officer visiting our show, doing his duty with the State Police, a customer came by and asked whether he could sell his gun to the exhibitor dealers behind their tables at the show. I said, yes he could and was reminded by the officer that not all exhibitors were FFL holders and in that case if one bought a gun they would need to complete the NICS background check. After the
customer left the COBIS officer did remind me that it was my responsibility to remind our exhibitors that if they are not a FFL holder any non dealer has to go through the NICS check before buying a gun. A collector selling their own guns at a gun show is not a dealer and needs to follow the law of non dealer status. I am reminding all of you of this fact now.
Our October 12, 13 and 14 Arms Fair at the Saratoga Springs City Center is coming along quite well and again this year, we are hosting the NCCA, Northeast Cutlery Collectors Association. We already have about 20 tables of their members signed up with promises for about 40. So I would suggest if you haven’t already sent in your applications, that you take this opportunity to fill it out and send it along with your deposit. Also, if you need rooms, Saratoga is always a busy area and in this time period
there are conventions going on and the autumn leaves will be in their full color so rooms will be at a premium, don’t wait to make your hotel reservations. This show will feature collector knives, collector and investment firearms and hunting guns and all the general accessories that pertain to the upcoming season. A lot of deposits have been received already and I would expect that this mailing would produce our normal sell out.
On our way to Syracuse, we were also invited to stop at a new facility in the outskirts of Utica, one that will probably be about 100 table capacity, a lot of parking and a new building with full snack bar. This is close to the Turning Stone Casino with hotels nearby and could turn out to be a very nice addition to our show schedule. We’ll follow up with additional details if all goes well.
These new shows are more reasons to become a member of our New Eastcoast Arms Collectors Associates or renew your current membership. As you are aware, we do not require membership to participate in our shows but we do offer discounts on tables and other benefits. Speaking of which we have been talking about a Christmas Party at our December 21, 22, 23 Show in Saratoga Springs.
I have been trying to figure out ways to make our Gun Shows more community oriented while getting more favorable press coverage. One of the things we’ve done is to call our shows Arms Fairs, now I would like to insert the word “Convention”. As a Convention our activities have a better standing than a trade show. A fun way to do this I thought, was to have a Christmas Party that I hope to turn into a NEACA Winter Convention in the future.
I know this show is just a few days before Christmas as is this planned party but it’s the only time period that is available. In time we will move into mid December. I would hope all of you as members will try to help us in this endeavor.
We have just consummated an arrangement with the Saratoga Hotel which adjoins the City Center, to host a Christmas Party on Saturday evening, December 22nd in the their Ball Room. We will sell dinner tickets for $30 each consisting of a full, sit down meal with cash bar and decorative Holiday atmosphere. We will also have tables for a silent auction similar to Friends of NRA banquets. Already we have several volunteers who will help with this.
Anyone else wishing to volunteer please let me know. I’m also considering a live auction of around 50 items, firearms, etc., with a flat $10 or $15 fee for consignments. We will also have several raffles going on and may send out raffle tickets to members.
We’ve also arranged for a very special price for rooms at the hotel for our show and dinner at a rate of $69.00 plus tax. Exhibitors and members will receive a code word to secure reservations at this very special rate. We will have tickets printed and available shortly. If anyone has any suggestions or ideas, please pass them on to Cathy or me. Our December flier is enclosed and you will notice that there is a
discounted table rate for this show, we have reduced the tables by $5.00 In addition to that, if anyone sends in the full table amount and requests dinner tickets at the same time, we will reduce the tables another $5.00 each. You guys do the math, it’s a good deal. We will also have a breakfast buffet on Sunday morning in the hotel gallery, which adjoins the City Center Exhibit Hall. These will be separate tickets for around $15.00.
We’re also thinking about Santa Claus and each of us wrapping a present for one another, then as we all become merry celebrating the holiday season I may even have a contest trying to catch that illusive wood nymph. Hope all of you can make this Convention idea a reality for our organization.
Sincerely, Cathy & Dave
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July 1, 2007
NEACA Members and Exhibitors,
A day after our 45th wedding anniversary and a few days before we fly to Las Vegas, I’m trying to relax, recuperate from another vacation and rest up for our new trip. But business always beckons and time waits for no one, Saratoga in August is just a month away.
Cathy and I celebrated our anniversary together but alone. We did nothing. What a joy! I even ran out of gas putting filets on the grill so didn’t even have to cook. All the kids were busy and we just chilled out. But, we did manage a full family vacation by renting a house on the seashore in Rockport, Mass. Four days of walking shops and beaches were plenty to exhaust us old folks but the kids spent a few days more. Now we’re off for a week in Vegas and hope to come back richer and wiser. Thank most of you for not sending me all your table money for the August show. I’ll need it when we get back!
Our post card advertising is going out next week thanks to Denise and our girls. Most of the other advertising is already in place and I hope this mailing gets out before we go so you folks will have plenty of time to plan on coming to our August 3, 4, 5 Saratoga Arms Fair. A lot of regulars didn’t weather the March snowstorm and couldn’t make our last show so pent up desires are definitely there. Please send in your
applications now or your balances for this show. Getting everything done prior to the event makes Cathy’s life much easier and lets us devote our time to making a better show instead of having to call people.
October 12, 13 & 14 will be our fall show date and we have again invited the Northeast Cutlery Collectors Association, NCCA, to our event, same time and details as last year. Our flier is enclosed but we will not assign any specific table location for the October show until after our August Arms Fair. Thereby giving table preference to those of you who are attending the summer event.
We have contracted for a Christmas-time show at the City Center and the dates are December 21, 22 & 23, 2007. We have tentatively booked the ballroom at the Saratoga Hotel adjoining the City Center for a Christmas party and dinner on Saturday night, December 22nd. We hope to make this an annual event with a small auction, good food and camaraderie, perhaps Santa Claus and a gala convention of our membership. All details have not
been fully worked out but will be forthcoming. Please plan on attending as a NEACA member or as one’s guest. We will refer to our December show as our NEACA Convention and special room rates are being discussed for Friday and Saturday. We need about 30 or so rooms booked and 150 or more dinner guests to make it all plausible. Always something new coming from our organization but you, the membership is what makes anything work.
And another new event is coming this September 7, 8 & 9, 2007 to Amsterdam, NY. We have scheduled a show at the former Holiday Inn, now an America’s Best Value Inn at 10 Market Street; plenty of free parking, easy to get to, a special room rate and fine gun loving area. The venue is actually in Pasqualli’s Restaurant and Conference Center, an area where we can accommodate about 50 tables. The management and hotel are very
happy to have us and are thrilled that we are bringing in a long overdue gun show. They are also helping to promote this event in the local area. Only two months away, flier enclosed, please add this to your things to do list. For room reservations, please call early, about $50. a night, 518-843-5760 and mention the Gun Show.
Our NEACA.com website is still doing fine. We are now getting over six million hits a month and 175,000 visits each month, that is over 4,000 people every day looking at our products or messages. Very soon it will be time to expand the site so we can host member pages and advertising. In the coming months we will devote our time to that endeavor and to our Saratoga Springs Arms Fairs.
After 45 years of marriage and 35 years of being in business together, Cathy and I have the urge to cut back somewhat and start enjoying those golden years. Retirement is not in the immediate future but better time allotment certainly is. So, we will continue to do our best in promoting the Saratoga Arms Fairs considered by many to be the premiere shows in the northeast; work on our Convention idea to grow our membership and remain a leader in our business, and to maintain and
innovate our web presence to provide for ourselves and our members.
Among those plans we would also like to sell our four story brick building in Mechanicville. Our Otis elevator services four floors with 3,000 square feet of space each and we have both a Main Street location and one adjacent to the Champlain Canal. For younger folks there are still a lot of growth opportunities here. Our market price will be around $550,000. We have several other
locations for us to remain in the gun business but we really don’t need 12,000 square feet to maintain. Anyone looking for a new future let us know.
We’ll also have a new sale at our store this August 9, 10 & 11 just to keep pecking away at our over sized inventory. We’ll probably have a flier at the August show. With that we’ve got to start packing for Vegas, please remember I’ll need money on our return. Send in your table applications and check the mailing label for membership expiration. Have a very pleasant summer and see you in Saratoga.
Sincerely, Cathy & Dave Petronis
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April 25, 2007
Members and Exhibitors,
Is spring really here? Or are we experiencing that “global warming” phenomenon that brought early buds in January, miserably cold weather in February, a freak March snow storm that nearly ruined our Saratoga Springs Arms Fair and then April snow storms, massive flooding, a record warm day and now cold again. Has spring really sprung or will we miss summer and see a
cold spell for our August Saratoga Arms Fair? So far this year’s weather has been crazy.
But, even if the Artic polar bears have to swim a longer distance between icebergs -- life goes on. We who buy and sell guns still need to get out and about. Our job at NEACA headquarters, in glorious downtown Mechanicville, is to bring you, the general public, and other dealers together to deal with guns. We’ve got some shows you might want to attend and even another sale at
our own location.
Our public attendance in March at Saratoga was the reverse of usual. A fairly full show, the weather did scare a few dealers to cancel, but we managed to make it work and the crowd on Sunday nearly made up for only a thousand people on Saturday. Really, the big problem was parking -- not the traveling. All history now, August 3, 4 and 5 is our next Saratoga Arms Fair and I think the
folks who couldn’t get out in March will have pent up emotions to come see us in the summer. We’ve had loads of phone calls inquiring about our next Saratoga show date. The flier is enclosed but remember to find a hotel early. Saratoga is always the place to be and summer time is fun time with the Racino and Harness Track plus the thoroughbred Flat Track and Polo. A busy, busy place where the streets are crowded through midnight.
Even with the snowstorm on Friday evening and naturally all the hype that went with it from the weather forecasters who managed to scare a good deal of the public plus our dealers, overall the show was very good. Cathy and I lost money from admissions naturally and there weren’t the usual amount of people so the ratio of public to dealers was off but some of the dealers did very well. We also took a lot of new memberships and after the show we still had lots of calls and people stopping at the shop inquiring about our next event. The snow certainly took its toll and this was the first time in March in over 20 years that weather was a factor. One of the disappointing facts was that Cathy did a lot more advertising and we sent out just under 10,000 post cards and perhaps
that’s why the show was still good but it certainly was down. We have had a lot of new inquiries about our shows from other dealers and August should prove to be a very good event.
Our fall show will be on October 12, 13 and 14 as it was last year and we have scheduled a new show just before Christmas at Saratoga on December 21, 22 and 23. We had one at the same time back at the turn of the century and it went really well. More to follow on that show. If postal weight allows we are also including the October flier. However, we will not assign any table locations for that show until after our August event. Dealers at the August Arms Fair will have preference for the following show. Also our knife-dealing friends from NCCA will again be invited in October.
We are also returning to Herkimer at the VFW on Mohawk Street, flier enclosed, on May 18, 19 and 20 and will probably schedule another in the fall. I’ve always enjoyed our little show there except for the motel situation. This time we have managed to get a room at the Herkimer Motel, behind Denny’s and they still have a few rooms.
Call 315-866-0490 for reservations. Lots of gun history in that area as well as our country’s historical past from the French and Indian War forward. Stuff always comes in and I always sell guns.
Plattsburgh is back on our schedule too. Instead of the K of C Hall on Boynton Avenue, which was sold and converted to something else, we are right next door at the VFW #125 where the friends of NRA dinner is also held. The date is June 1, 2 and 3 and our flier is enclosed. We’ve had some very productive shows in Plattsburgh and there is a variety of good
motels nearby.
If you folks know about those computer things then you can actually go “on line” and download by PDF all of our fliers, check on motels and restaurants or even find a map to get where you want to go. Our website at www.NEACA.com has a lot of information, news, and guns and stuff for sale. Soon we will announce a new sale at our Hudson River Trading Company store on May 11 and 12, the
Friday and Saturday before Mothers’ Day. We had about 150 people show up for our last one but didn’t even make a dent! Of course, we also had a snowstorm on the first day of our sale. God is testing me!
With all the new gun laws that are being introduced in our New York State Assembly by the Democrats and now with Elliot Spitzer as Governor, one never knows what the morrow may bring. Watch your NRA –ILA alerts and the local papers for laws being proposed and do your part by sending a letter or making a phone call to Albany expressing your concern. My belief, no matter what New York State Senator Schumer has to say about
his “believing in the second amendment rights”, I wouldn’t trust him one iota. And when he and Clinton and Sheldon Silver get together it should run shivers up your spine. Shiver my timbers with Spitzer, Silver and Schumer at the helm!
And with that, happy sailing or as ‘ol Roy used to say “Happy trails to you, until we meet again.” In Herkimer, Plattsburgh and Saratoga.
Sincerely, Cathy & Dave Petronis
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September 11, 2006 Members & Exhibitors,
Here it is five years later and the only reason Cathy and I feel safer is that we still own guns. During the dark hurricane in New Orleans the folks that had them were being sought by the local government in fear they might just be using guns to keep what they own and wanted to protect. New buyers of homes near long operating shooting ranges now want to close
the ranges down because of noise and safety. And if Schumer and the possibility of a new democrat Congress get in and have their way this fall, gun shows might follow the path of the do-do bird. But, thank the heavens and pro-gun people everywhere our Saratoga Springs Arms Fair is still going to happen this coming October 13, 14 & 15.
Those sharp, sticky things called knives, bayonets and swords are already high on the list of liberals who are setting their sights on the elimination or control of those nasty knives and box cutters. That is why we are very pleased to announce the alliance of the Northeast Cutlery Collectors Association and New Eastcoast Arms Collectors Associates in this October Show.
Long time NEACA member and exhibitor, Art Green of Gloversville, NY and prominent NCCA member was the influential force in making this happen. Thank you, Arthur. He also has diligently advertised this cooperative event in knife and blade publications.
So, not only should you exhibitors be bringing hunting guns and accessories to this show for the upcoming season, you should also bring out those old blades tucked away for possible enticement to this new audience. And, of course, this also affords the opportunity for you knife folks to bring along those guns and other sporting collectables not normally seen or brought to your own shows. Let us make this next opportunity of meetings into an exchange of mutual wants.
We are extending our NEACA member table discount rate to the NCCA members for this October Arms Fair. They simply need to present their current NCCA card for verification. There are nearly 20 tables already paid for from the NCCA with others requested. And with our deposits from prior shows we have over a hundred NEACA tables deposited and the inevitable “check is in the mail” for another 30 or 40 more so we are in good shape for another sell-out. We will send fliers and discount coupons to Syracuse, Marlboro, Rochester and Springfield Shows, which are all in the preceding month to ours.
We also send out an additional 5000 discount coupons to our prior area show attendees and will begin the local advertising 2 weeks prior to the show. You can help by copying the flier and posting it in your gun club, local gas station or work bulletin board. Personal promotion by each exhibitor or member can reach a lot of new and otherwise missed people. It is hard for me to believe in this age of instant communication that I find so many people who don’t own a computer or have e-mail, who don’t receive a daily paper, who don’t fill out door prize coupons or know where they live to receive a mailed notice of our show, who don’t subscribe to Gun List or other publications and for some reason still come to our show – it is a lot about word of mouth or going to prior or other shows. But to get to the same person with all the above attributes who doesn’t attend gun shows – you need a personal flier staring him in the face or a “by chance glimpse or listen” to one of our ads. It ain’t easy reaching the right people and getting new folks to come on in. But we work at it and so far have succeeded in getting our share of good exhibitors and good buyers. Attested to by our sell-out shows. And this show also has Art Green doing some of the same work in different areas.
Get your application in; I have a few wall spaces left of groups of three with one table perpendicular to the wall, in an “L” form. I believe all or most of the front half section is already deposited for – so if you didn’t heed my warning at the last few shows about depositing for your prior location you are probably out of luck and unless you send in pretty fast you may not get space at all. We will be in Syracuse the weekend of September 16 & 17 also.
Also, members, remember that only exhibitors are allowed in on Friday until 6:00 PM. If you do not have a table please come only after 6:00 PM. Anyone wishing to sign up for membership may also do so at that time. Exhibitors, remember that badges are for you and your bonafide partner, not for someone who simply asks you for a badge.
There is a limit of two. Our dealer set-up time is just that – exclusively for table holders. Our buffet also starts at 6PM for the normal free food and drink. And, exhibitors, you are also asked to stay and remain open at least to 8PM on Friday – that is why we provide you with free food and drink. If all you guys consider this a waste of time we certainly can eliminate the practice – it is a lot of work and expense and if not appreciated by staying open, we can change the practice. Let
us know.
The hunting season is right on the heels of our show so do bring your hunting guns to this show. It also marks the end of our year’s shows. We have nothing that is scheduled until February 11, 2007 in Lake George. That flier is also included. Please remember to read the show Rules and Regulations on the reverse of our October Arms Fair flier and sign the reverse. Please pay your membership dues if up on October 1, 2006 – see your mailing label for your due date. Please have all paperwork and payments in to us two weeks prior to the show if you want the member discount rate. And have all paperwork and payments in to the Secretary’s table prior to set-up on Friday evening.
If you haven’t been to our www.NEACA.com website, which garners over 3 million hits a month, which those of you not in the know, that’s a lot, please do visit. While perusing the site you will find that our E-mail address is on each page. Please respond and send us your E-mail address.
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